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vBulletin.com Hacked, Customer Data Stolen
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Whoopty
Whoopty,
User Rank: Ninja
11/18/2013 | 12:29:45 PM
Phew
I'm not as worried by this now as I would have been a few years ago. It's been a while since I used a forum regularly. Now it's more common threads like this and social networks. 
Susan_Nunziata
Susan_Nunziata,
User Rank: Apprentice
11/18/2013 | 12:41:21 PM
Big-name brands
Considering the big-name brands that have built their forums using vBulletins, if I were any of those organizations I'd be pretty worried right now.

The question, of course, is what kind of data is stored in those forums. Pearl Jam (the band) sells tickets and merchandise through its website, but does that information touch the vBulletin forum porition of their site? What about Sony Pictures or EA?

According to the vBulletin site, NASA even uses its software for their forums.

I hope all the companies that use this service are monitoring closely and checking for exploits.
jemison288
jemison288,
User Rank: Apprentice
11/18/2013 | 2:56:00 PM
If you didn't realize vbulletin is insecure, you weren't paying attention
VBulletin sends out something like a patch a week due to security problems.  Anyone still running vbulletin--after, say, 2008--is either asleep at the wheel or decided that the inevitability of being hacked through vbulletin was a reasonable risk.

Seriously--vbulletin, joomla, and a host of other popular PHP "applications" are so large and full of security holes that they're essentially impossible to secure.  No one with a serious business should be using any of them.
kjhiggins
kjhiggins,
User Rank: Strategist
11/18/2013 | 3:34:31 PM
Re: If you didn't realize vbulletin is insecure, you weren't paying attention
Not to downplay this breach, but your point about vBulletin patching almost weekly is actually relativley promising. Patching regularly is better than not patching at all.
jemison288
jemison288,
User Rank: Apprentice
11/18/2013 | 3:40:39 PM
Re: If you didn't realize vbulletin is insecure, you weren't paying attention
I don't know if I agree with that.  It's like saying, "I know it breaks a lot, but they have great customer support!"  Screw that, I'd rather have something that never breaks with crappy customer support--I won't need it.  (Early days of AWS were basically like that).
Ariella
Ariella,
User Rank: Apprentice
11/18/2013 | 5:44:31 PM
Re: If you didn't realize vbulletin is insecure, you weren't paying attention
@jemison288 I know exactly what you mean. It's like having a car with a good warranty that frequently needs repairs that are covered. On the one hand, it's good that the dealer fixes everything, but, on the other hand, you'd really prefer to be spared the inconvenience of things breaking on it in the first place.
samicksha
samicksha,
User Rank: Apprentice
11/19/2013 | 3:36:20 AM
Re: If you didn't realize vbulletin is insecure, you weren't paying attention
I read about vBulletin breach prompts password reset, I am suprised how come attackers managed using a zero-day flaw that is now being sold in several places online, I guess cross site scripting can be intervened into most forum site.
bonmon
bonmon,
User Rank: Apprentice
7/18/2016 | 7:26:03 AM
Re: If you didn't realize vbulletin is insecure, you weren't paying attention
As he sees no one is safe.


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