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Java Hacker Uncovers Two Flaws In Latest Update
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Andrew Binstock
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Andrew Binstock,
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1/28/2013 | 7:47:55 AM
re: Java Hacker Uncovers Two Flaws In Latest Update
"...but the Java/Oracle bashing is totally out of scope these days" It's not out of scope. It might be excessive in some forums, but my concern has nothing to do with the usual ranting, but rather the lack of communication for a company hoping to host enterprise Java apps in the cloud. I have no idea where you view in my response anything that discusses "the death of Java." I love Java and use it everyday. I want Oracle to be more responsive precisely *because* I don't want it to die.
moarsauce123
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1/26/2013 | 3:28:23 PM
re: Java Hacker Uncovers Two Flaws In Latest Update
We could say the same or worse about Microsoft and yet everyone uses it. Do we have to patch Java every month by downloading 100MBs worth of patches and then reboot every single system?
Complaints about the Java bugs are legitimate, but the Java/Oracle bashing is totally out of scope these days. Look at many of the Word or PowerPoint vulnerabilities. Something dorky like a slide show app can compromise an entire system??? Does PowerPoint really need access down to the kernel level? And such systems are as easily compromised as is the case with the Java bugs.
Rather than demand the death of Java put effort into finding flaws, disclosing them to Oracle, and help them get fixed. As it stands now, there is no other cross-platform runtime.
Mark Kauffman
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1/24/2013 | 10:19:31 PM
re: Java Hacker Uncovers Two Flaws In Latest Update
As a long-time (20-years) software architect and engineer, I found one of the early advantages of Java to be in our ability to write once and run the same code anywhere, in any browser. With advances in HTML and JavaScript (not Java) - there are fewer browser applications that require Java applets, so disabling it in your browser is feasible. However, running the JVM in a browser was originally touted as a secure (for the user) way to run code - because said code could not touch the host OS or file system, because it ran in a sandbox. That Oracle and probably Sun let that slide is a disgrace, Oracle should do the right thing by Java, which is simply to make certain that the JVM, in a browser, can not execute certain operations, or fail in a way that corrupts memory or disk. Applets can be forced to run in a sandbox, as they have in the past. -- MBK MS CS
Andrew Binstock
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Andrew Binstock,
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1/23/2013 | 4:01:56 AM
re: Java Hacker Uncovers Two Flaws In Latest Update
At the rate these defects are turning up, Oracle is going to have to redouble efforts on Java and greatly upgrade its communication, which so far has been far below the standard that enterprise customers should expect from a company that wants to be their cloud vendor.


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