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Block/Allow: The Changing Face of Hacker Linguistics
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wessir
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wessir,
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7/30/2020 | 12:02:24 PM
Sad future for the younger tech workers
This only introduces an aspect of 'racism' that wasn't there. These terms are etched into metal. It won't be long and the younger workers can't understand documentation or the letters on devices because of what? feelings?

I suppose client/server would be next to be 'cancelled' because it implies status?
libertyboy
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libertyboy,
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7/30/2020 | 12:04:24 PM
Bold Story from the name DARKReading!
ummm?
tdsan
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tdsan,
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7/30/2020 | 2:15:22 PM
Interesting comments
DarkReading - I thought that referenced issues from a computing standpoint that are surreptitious in nature or secretive, done in the dark where people can't see what is being performed, that does not bother me.

What bother's me is the fact that people try to deflect the real issues and they belittle the true facts around the pain from slavery (400 years of oppression). I do agree "master/slave" needs to be removed and replaced with primary/secondary. I have a hard time saying it from time to time because of the mental images it brings to mind.

The writer was trying to be sensitive to the nature of people of color and the comments listed below causes me to believe that the void between people of color and white America will never resolve itself, the void is too big and the hurt is too deep. We will never get beyond our simple differences because people don't want to face the truth that America's history was truly ugly and still is.

I won't see the divide bridged between the two or in my lifetime but hopefully, it will.

Thank you writer for sharing, it is greatly appreciated.

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MarkSitkowski
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MarkSitkowski,
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7/30/2020 | 10:08:15 PM
Re: Interesting comments
In general, I object to the prostitution of the language of Shakespeare and Milton by professional offendees to suit their political ends. 

In particular, science and engineering are above and outside of politics and the nuances of its language are , evidently, beyond their comprehension. 'Primary' and 'Secondary' do not have the same meaning as 'Master' and 'Slave', and cannot be used interchangeably. 'Abort', 'Stop' and 'Quit' all mean totally different things and 'Blacklist' and 'Whitelist' are derived from the hats, worn by the villain and hero in ancient westerns - which were shot in black and white (not the same thing as monochrome).

Any attempt to stop the term 'abuse', from signifying hack attempts is doomed to failure, since every ISP in the world uses an email address of '[email protected]' to receive complaints about hack attempts - and most are not in English-speaking countries. 
tdsan
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tdsan,
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7/30/2020 | 10:36:18 PM
Re: Interesting comments
In general, I object to the prostitution of the language of Shakespeare and Milton by professional offendees to suit their political ends.
  • Interesting, I object to all of the attrocities (fact) that were terrible in nature (Master/Slave) and the lack of sensitivity and accountability It is a a fact that individuals have have applied the same concepts to technology (I think you get the point), and in this instance, there is no political gain, just being human. There is a terrible memory of American History and Savery,  I am always curious as to why is it so hard to understand the plight of people in the US (African Americans and Native Americans) and the issues associated with our plight. It is just as bad as when when people from Nazi Germany were being killed, that was one of the most abhorrent times in history but Black people are still dealing with that attorcity in America and they call it the land of the free.

Abort, stop and quit
  • I don't think they have heard those (Abort that is) words during the times of slavery (Blacklist and whitelist, but just think about all of the connotations of how they are being used, blacklist to block something that is bad, whitelist allows things are good, I do understand the reason behind it but look at the psychological effects, children are looking at while dolls and saying they are beautiful and the black dolls are ugly, it affects the psyche even at a young age). Another example , look at all of the aspects of how the words black and white are being portraiyed (snow - pure, clean, black - dark, menacing).

So it is goes beyond the scope of this conversation, that there are instances that can perceived as "sketchy" or can be identified as sensitive in nature. Indviduals don't want to be taken back in time (we - Blacks/Native Americans) don't want to be taken back to a terrible place just like the Jews, we are trying to forget such as terrible time but the George Floyds keeps reminding us of how bad it still is.

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MarkSitkowski
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MarkSitkowski,
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7/31/2020 | 2:06:43 AM
Re: Interesting comments
I guess the only consolation, is that this newspeak will be limited to use in the United States, and not in our parts of the world, where the 150 year old crimes that you're all still trying to avenge were never committed. 

 
tdsan
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tdsan,
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7/31/2020 | 11:47:32 AM
Re: Interesting comments
Wow, someone really said trying to avenge. This conversation was not about avenging, it was about being sick and tired of people standing on our necks (ala George Floyd) and doing something about it. All we want is an equal opportunity and not being put at the bottom of the barrel, especially when we are talking about the "Just-US" system.

Because for me, I am not waiting for people to make a move, if I see something out of hand, then they will be dealt with accordingly (I will assess every situation respectfully but if it gets out of hand, then I don't mind getting dirty). I don't have that slave mentality, I welcome adversity.

So for me, it is not about changing the past (I cannot do anything about it), but from now and into the future, I am making my own way and working hard to get there. People will be racist, so I don't depend on them, I just see a goal and pursue it, but if someone is brave enough to get in the way, then there are consequences.

In the movie Jurassic Park, when he talked about the raptor and he said his visual acuity is just as good as yours, so when you look at him, he looks back, I think that describes me.

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