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It's Time to Improve Website Identity Indicators, Not Remove Them
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timcallan
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timcallan,
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10/25/2019 | 8:18:08 PM
Re: Not of Concern
It's inaccurate to say, "An evildoer could just as easilyy purchase an EV cert with false information if they own the domain they are phishing from..." In fact, that is not the case. EV requires the use of highly effective authentication methods that have remained undefeated in more than ten years of widescale, global production on the most valuable and lucrative online targets. While spoofing a domain name is as easy as coming up with a credible string that is available for registration, the information presented in an EV certificate is highly reliable.

EV certs are here today, they work, and they have an impeccable track record. Let's continue to benefit from them. Let's build on that, not tear it down.
dwrightetc
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dwrightetc,
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10/24/2019 | 5:44:59 PM
Not of Concern
I have to aree with Google and Mozilla on this one. While EV SSL do a more through checking on the purchaser during inital setup they do little to increase user privacy or confidence in a website.  There is no encryption difference between EV and DV certs. An evildoer could just as easilyy purchase an EV cert with false information if they own the domain they are phishing from (which in most cases they do with similarish names) it just takes a few days vs. a few minutes to obtain the certificate.  If we want to really provide users with better privacy a focus would be placed on securing domains with DNSSEC and making it easier for users to utilize protocols like DNSCrypt/DoH/DoT and providing more secure no log DNS servers.  Use of those tools will almost completely eliminate phishing all together as the problem with DNS is that it is unencrypted and unvalidated by default which allows for the malicious redirects in the first place.  In my opinion, the reluctancy to implement these technologies revolves around the fact that ISP's, governments, fill in the blank, all make huge amounts of money data mining our DNS requests as well as using them to track everything regular users do on the internet, they are also used to implement content filtering and access restrictions many places, if privacy is really implemented billions of dollars could be lost.  Mozilla took a lot of heat for being one of the early adopters of DoH/DoT which their browser now supports however, this was/is the right move to increase privacy and security of end users across the board.


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