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AppSec Is Dead, but Software Security Is Alive & Well
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John160
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John160,
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1/22/2019 | 6:08:19 AM
Ignorance
The author clearly has no idea about what he is writing. Application security is much more than the author described and it is just a silly thing to discard what has already been done in the area (and it successfully done). there is nothing worth reading and taking into consideration in this article. Hopefully experts like Matt Rose won't be affecting the state of application security
scarabeetle
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scarabeetle,
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11/8/2018 | 8:52:36 AM
S-SDLC is key
Software security IS the right path.  I agree with the previous commenter that having the static and dynamic testing built-in to the build process that keeps security testing proactive, rather than reactive (after deployment) is key.  
username007
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username007,
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10/29/2018 | 12:33:37 PM
Wait what?
I stopped doing Application Security about a year ago mostly due to the burn out of working with new kids being taught in school the insecure way to code all the way to the old school dev that has been coding since the Com64 thinking "if it ain't broke don't fix it"; however the point here is I have been doing this for some time too.

Now, Matt Rose seems to think that for whatever reason the industry should shake what it has already worked so hard on and just throw it away. Software Security is not the same thing as Application Security. They can NOT be intermingled and they are in so way similiar. Building an application, something an end-user actually uses, should not be treated the same way the back end database gets built. One gets handled with configuration management, I.E. company policies on how something should be configured and can be audited easily, while the other is handled with vulnerability management, I.E. with reactive response such as code review, penetration testing, or vulnerability scanning.

DevOps and Agile do not have the time that security needs to do all of our checking. So with that, Security needs to be baked into the SDLC process, not bolted on like some crap Captcha. Individuals that show the aptitude, need to be dubed security champions within their team, to help make sure best coding practices are followed.

We, as senior staff, need to stop trying to change things just for the sake of change or because we learned new words and think they need to go in a different order. This post wreaks of someone living in the Waterfall days, knowing just enough about security to cause more harm than good.

AppSec is not dead, but arrogance over how it should be handled needs to be.


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