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13 Russians Indicted for Massive Operation to Sway US Election
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zzx375
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zzx375,
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2/17/2018 | 9:23:53 AM
Is there a crime?
Is there a crime other than people in this country being stupid and believing everything they read online or in a social media feed?  Unless there are specific laws on the books I suspect this the special prosecutor's way of saying here's what we have, but it isn't much.  How many people post without using their own name?  Nothing to see here.
lg.alabris
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lg.alabris,
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2/19/2018 | 12:23:19 AM
Re: Is there a crime?
zzx375  really?  obvious a bot
cynrgy
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cynrgy,
User Rank: Strategist
2/19/2018 | 2:08:13 PM
Re: Is there a crime?
*huge eye roll

The Clintons lost.  Stop crying about it.  Turn the page. 

I'd be willing to buy that the Russians were trying to weave dissention into gullable Americans but the insinuation that the Russians actively wanted Trump to win is so much left-wing paranoia it makes me sick.  Grow up people. 

I have been a dedicated reader of this site for many years because of its seeminly non-biased, non-political write-ups.   

Has something changed? 
lg.alabris
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lg.alabris,
User Rank: Strategist
2/19/2018 | 11:12:26 PM
Re: Is there a crime?
Your bot-pal zzx375 started this and you actually defend it?  Oh, he's a nice bot, really...

Clinton won the popular vote by over 2+MM votes.  The actual 2016 election outcome was decided by less than 80K votes in 2 states.   To claim that this opinion engineering operation - highly sophisticated - covert - well funded - with known massive effect on numerous previous Euro elections - did not affect the 2016 election outcome is laughable.   

What has changed?  In past years anyone here would understand threats when they see them and defend freedom and its values.    Now we have people who cynically apologize for them.    

Yes, crime was involved.  Thirty seven pages of it.   We are facing serious threats and responsible professionals know it.   If you are feeling sick, perhaps its from too much Faustian deal in your diet. 

 sorry if all this "political" talk hurts your feelings.  Its real and we need to fix it.
libertyboy
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libertyboy,
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2/20/2018 | 12:45:14 PM
Re: Is there a crime?
It's pretty laughable really - some Ruskies cyberbullied Hillary and stole the election!? Be very careful what you wish for (making it seem way bigger than it was,) because soon the investigation will close and the first thing Trump will do is say the this is one more thing Obama screwed up because the Russian trolling happened on his watch, and The Donald will take credit for fixing Obamas failure for future elections!
Joe Stanganelli
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Joe Stanganelli,
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2/20/2018 | 10:37:23 PM
Re: Is there a crime?
@zzx375: It's not about fake news so much as about actual campaigning activities in the manner of a PAC. The issue, as per the indictment, comes down to them being foreign nationals -- who are prohibited from various electioneering activities/expenditures in the US. There are also allegations in the indictment of bank fraud, wire fraud, and identity theft.


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