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This Year's Pwn2Own Hackfest Will Offer Up to $2 Million in Rewards
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Joe Stanganelli
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Joe Stanganelli,
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1/29/2018 | 11:11:31 PM
Re: The rewards of virtue?
@Dr.T: Is that necessarily so, though?

Depends on the bad guy. Your run-of-the-mill thief deals with volume -- and is therefore looking for low-hanging fruit. A nation-state, on the other hand, operates under an entirely different "business model" -- and therefore has both the incentive and the resources to do this kind of in-depth research.
Dr.T
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1/29/2018 | 7:04:16 PM
Re: The rewards of virtue?
"Probabilities aside, the vulnerability underlying M/S was found and made known by researchers.  That they were well intentioned doesn't alter the fact that the results have been disruptive and costly"

This makes sense. Maybe software vendors should be hold more accountable.
Dr.T
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1/29/2018 | 7:01:50 PM
Re: The rewards of virtue?
"there was a substantial probability that "bad guys" were about to discover it anyway."

I would agree with this. Bad guys have more incentive than good guys.
Dr.T
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1/29/2018 | 6:59:14 PM
Re: The rewards of virtue?
"the case with the Meltdown/Spectre"

my understanding is that Intel got enough time to fix the bug, they were not quick enough.
Dr.T
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1/29/2018 | 6:57:30 PM
Re: The rewards of virtue?
"But consider what happens when the discoveries leak out before the mitigations and fixes are ready"

This is a good point. We would want to avoid this part of it one way or another.
Dr.T
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1/29/2018 | 6:55:14 PM
Re: The rewards of virtue?
"Malware is just software - which can be used to do bad things; and what's bad or good will always be a judgement call. "

I say intention is important. If it tries to hurt people than it is bad.
Dr.T
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1/29/2018 | 6:27:40 PM
Re: Exploit hunting for fun and profit?
"Exploit hunting for fun and profit? "

This would be a good thing I would say, both earing money and having fun.
Dr.T
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1/29/2018 | 6:24:16 PM
Re: Exploit hunting for fun and profit?
" other words: they are looking for the exploitable.  Is it always a good thing, that they find it? "

I see, I say yes, it is better to find it as early as possible.
Dr.T
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1/29/2018 | 6:23:12 PM
Re: Exploit hunting for fun and profit?
"Without denying the positives of cybersecurity research (and researchers), we should also look at the negative consequences, both realized and unanticipated. "

What type of negative consequences could there be?
Dr.T
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1/29/2018 | 6:21:31 PM
Re: Exploit hunting for fun and profit?
"Remember when  a programming "bug" was first rebranded as "an undocumented feature"?  That was a clever way to spin a half-truth"

I hear you. If it was a TDD approach, bug may be considered a featuire. :--))
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