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After DHS Notice, 21 States Reveal They Were Targeted During Election
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jenshadus
jenshadus,
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9/26/2017 | 10:01:00 AM
Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
There are so many things in this article that I disagree with.  I'll just point out one.

What's the evidence it was the Russians.  I went to Defcon and it took many of these people but 10 to 15 minutes to hack into the sample machines that were available.  I heard that one of them turned the booth into a PACMAN game.  Don't know if that's also true.  Virginia had one 100% red country that voted 100% blue, Maryland is notorious for sending people to vote in Virginia using fake ID's, not counting all the dead people who come in to vote (huh?). 

 
screwbird
screwbird,
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9/26/2017 | 10:37:43 PM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
It would be nice to know how attribution was established. 
REISEN1955
REISEN1955,
 User Rank: Ninja
9/27/2017 | 9:50:09 AM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
There are any number of fine countries to blame - North Korea and China to start with and just assuming that all BAD in the world belongs to Russian hackers is simplistic.  IP trace does not mean a tinker's damn as those can be hidden, fudged quite easily.    As for me,I personally fear hackers from Towaco, New Jerssy!!!  Now THAT is a tough area!!! LOL
jenshadus
jenshadus,
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9/27/2017 | 10:42:45 AM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
Amen
Dr.T
Dr.T,
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9/27/2017 | 11:08:09 AM
DHS is late
It is a little bit late for DHS to come out with this information, everybody knows not only Russians but may other countries try to attack other counties’ systems and that includes election systems too.
Dr.T
Dr.T,
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9/27/2017 | 11:09:43 AM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
“What's the evidence it was the Russians.” Good question. There may not be a clear set of evidence. However Russians and many others have interests in attacking US systems.
Dr.T
Dr.T,
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9/27/2017 | 11:11:24 AM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
“Virginia using fake ID's, not counting all the dead people who come in to vote (huh?). “ Yes, fake ID would be another major issue for an selection system. All needs to be avoided,
Dr.T
Dr.T,
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9/27/2017 | 11:12:37 AM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
“There are any number of fine countries to blame - North Korea and China to start with “ That is true, I would add many others that have capabilities to execute an attack.
Dr.T
Dr.T,
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9/27/2017 | 11:14:55 AM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
“IP trace does not mean a tinker's damn as those can be hidden, fudged quite easily” I would agree, IP address can easily be spoofed. It is not a traceable entity, there needs to be other mechanisms to track the attackers.
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli,
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9/27/2017 | 7:54:34 PM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
@Dr. T: Absolutely. Reminds me of the forensics tracking that big Sony hack that was traced to North Korea...except other researchers eventually traced it to...Russia!

And even then, that location tracking may not have been accurate/the whole story. There seems to be little shortage of IP-masking tech if you know where to look (no pun intended).
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