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After DHS Notice, 21 States Reveal They Were Targeted During Election
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Lepricon
Lepricon,
 User Rank: Apprentice
10/2/2017 | 7:11:06 PM
DHS reverses on at least one state
The irony is that they've already had to amend their statement:

"MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The U.S. Department of Homeland Security reversed course Tuesday and told Wisconsin officials that the Russian government did not scan the state's voter registration system."

 
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli,
 User Rank: Ninja
9/30/2017 | 12:20:32 PM
Re: DHS is late
@Dr.T: Not to mention that DHS itself was reportedly found with its hands in the cookie jar hacking a state election system...
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli,
 User Rank: Ninja
9/30/2017 | 12:19:32 PM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
@jenshadus: Brian Krebs talks about the history of those very developments in his book, Spam Nation. Highly recommended read.
jenshadus
jenshadus,
 User Rank: Strategist
9/29/2017 | 7:27:34 AM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
Excellent question.  At the price of bitcoin, think I'll forgo that avenue.  Cash will do nicely.  But it would be interesting to see the relationship of the use of gift cards and spam.  I do have an anonymous email, and I let that box get all the spam.  I safeguard my normal personal email and work email pretty carefully.
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli,
 User Rank: Ninja
9/29/2017 | 4:28:40 AM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
I wonder how the controls on gift card usage to fight back against the spam industry has impacted/is impacting this.

Also, don't forget bitcoin and altcoins as a method of anonymous payment.
jenshadus
jenshadus,
 User Rank: Strategist
9/28/2017 | 8:02:16 AM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
Considering that anyone can buy a VPN anonymously, using a gift card that you can pay with cash, and then selecting a server from anywhere in the world, and from there buy access to another VPN using a server in another part of the world, a hacker can really objuscate the origin of the attack.  The jury is out on this one.  Media loves to follow the media.  Better yet,  the media are their own best fan.
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli,
 User Rank: Ninja
9/27/2017 | 7:58:43 PM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
FWIW, not entirely sure what NoKo's motive would have been to actually interfere (although poke around, maybe). Seems like an HRC administration would have continued the policy of patience.

But yes, points well taken.
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli,
 User Rank: Ninja
9/27/2017 | 7:57:01 PM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
> Maryland is notorious for sending people to vote in Virginia using fake ID's

Same with MA and NH, from what I understand (NH being much different, politically, from most of New England).

And yes, you're absolutely right that voting has enough hacks and problems with it -- low- and high-tech -- with or without foreign involvement.

As I observed a few years ago, electronic voting of any kind is not and has not ever been ready for prime time. enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netsecur/hack-early-hack-often-the-perils-of-electronic-voting.html
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli,
 User Rank: Ninja
9/27/2017 | 7:54:34 PM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
@Dr. T: Absolutely. Reminds me of the forensics tracking that big Sony hack that was traced to North Korea...except other researchers eventually traced it to...Russia!

And even then, that location tracking may not have been accurate/the whole story. There seems to be little shortage of IP-masking tech if you know where to look (no pun intended).
Dr.T
Dr.T,
 User Rank: Ninja
9/27/2017 | 11:14:55 AM
Re: Really? We're still pointing fingers at the Russians?
“IP trace does not mean a tinker's damn as those can be hidden, fudged quite easily” I would agree, IP address can easily be spoofed. It is not a traceable entity, there needs to be other mechanisms to track the attackers.
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