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Anthem Agrees to $115 Million Settlement for 2015 Breach
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Joe Stanganelli
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Joe Stanganelli,
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6/26/2017 | 6:38:32 PM
Ashley Madison comparison
Of course, Anthem still has a profitable and viable business model -- unlike, in all likelihood, Ashley Madison these days. The Ashley Madison breach did FAR more damage to the company than the legal costs.
Dr.T
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Dr.T,
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6/27/2017 | 4:29:09 PM
Settlement
78.8 million individuals impacted and only $115 Million, this sounds not that much.
Dr.T
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Dr.T,
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6/27/2017 | 4:31:12 PM
out-of-pocket cost
"Class members who claim out-of-pocket costs may receive compensation of $36 to $50."

This is like a joke, lost my personal data and they pay me $50? Am I getting this right?
Dr.T
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Dr.T,
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6/27/2017 | 4:34:12 PM
Re: Ashley Madison comparison
"Anthem still has a profitable and viable business model"

I would think so, they might also still be suing old technologies.
Dr.T
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6/27/2017 | 4:35:40 PM
Re: Ashley Madison comparison
"The Ashley Madison breach did FAR more damage"

And also embarrassment to the users of the site.
Dr.T
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Dr.T,
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6/27/2017 | 4:35:57 PM
medical information
 

"but likely not medical information."

Why is this still "likely", there is a settlement and we still do not know if medical data was breached. 
Sara Peters
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6/28/2017 | 10:36:21 AM
Re: out-of-pocket cost
@Dr. T:  I'm with you. These settlements sound big at first, but once you factor in the number of people involved, it becomes pretty pitiful.

And yet this is a, comparatively, very big settlement, against a company that actually handled their breach response quite admirably. Other companies that did a lousy job from start to finish and showed no regard for their customers (Ashley-Madison) got away with smaller settlements.

 
RyanSepe
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6/28/2017 | 12:18:35 PM
Re: Ashley Madison comparison
@Joe Very much agree with your comparison. Ashley Madison would have tarnished their brand reputation as well. Similar to Arthur Andersen back in the Enron days, these indirect costs can cripple an organizaiton into extinction. We shall see how AM fairs in the years to come.
RyanSepe
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6/28/2017 | 12:22:41 PM
Re: out-of-pocket cost
@Dr.T, as Sarah stated when the hard numbers are broken down the numbers aren't a good reflection of how an individual should be compensated for a loss of their information. The numbers are most definitely jokeworthy. But playing devil's advocate, what should the numbers be for a payout for losing personal data? Based on the amount of users would Anthem be able to support this claim and stay in business? 
Joe Stanganelli
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6/29/2017 | 9:32:44 AM
Re: out-of-pocket cost
@Sara: But health data is a more legally protected class of information than whether one is looking to cheat on a partner. Plus, I daresay that Anthem has *waaaaay* more customers than Ashley Madison ever did. On a related note, potential HIPAA violations created tons of potential liability that Anthem wanted to avoid seeing a day in court over. So the difference in the settlement amounts makes sense for these reasons alone.

Also, as I understand it, the Ashley Madison breach involved an insider attack -- which, unfortunately, one can only do so much to prevent. The Anthem breach, however, involved a series of major security missteps. ( See, e.g., enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netsecur/anthem-could-face-legal-fallout-from-hack.html ). And even then, months passed between the time evidence of a likely attack became known (thanks to independent security researchers) and Anthem actually did anything.
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