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Putin Directed Cyberattack, Propaganda Operation To Influence US Election
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lr2003
lr2003,
User Rank: Apprentice
1/31/2017 | 2:19:42 PM
Re: NO VETTED DATA that Putin Directed Cyberattacks to Influence US Election
The only reason we are sure Russia is trying to influence our election is because we influence elections all over the world with no repercussions. We are bullies and we are extremely secretive in everything we do. So, we can only imagine that the rest of the world is the same as we are. 
dbrown15001
dbrown15001,
User Rank: Apprentice
1/19/2017 | 10:24:34 AM
Re: Putin likes (our) democracy for the options it offers him
Whether Putin did or did not do it does not matter. 

Just look at the history of East-West relations and actions and that will tell you that you should have expected him too.

Duh!

The amazing part is just how effective the operation has been. 

Look at how many elected officials have cut themselves and their constituents off from full participation in the US government. How many are proudly sitting out the inaugural events? How many are planning to disrupt the events?

How many doubt the Intelligence Community's words?

How many news organizations have alienated themselves from being able to gain information about the incoming government?   Finally, how many people doubt the truthfulness of these new organizations?

I would say, that from the attacker's viewpoint it is "Mission Accomplished!"

It is like two men fighting in a boat in the middle of the ocean and each shooting holes in the bottom.

Simply amazing.

 
Charlie Babcock
Charlie Babcock,
User Rank: Ninja
1/10/2017 | 2:06:50 PM
Putin likes (our) democracy for the options it offers him
Putin is a better student of democracy than those who take it for granted. He understands what new tools are available to sow disinformation and is skilled at using them. One need not establish a lie as truth for it to have a compromising effect. One need only create doubt and disunion. The people who excuse the attempt as inconsequential do not understand the new risks now in play for us. In a crisis induced by Russia, it will be harder to know who to believe through its skillful manipulation of fact and sources from which we are habituated to use for getting information.
BPID
BPID,
User Rank: Strategist
1/7/2017 | 6:38:12 PM
"We assess" is not proof
Gee, when your boss it the president and says: "find someone to blame", everyone lock steps. "We assess..." is a CYA which means "we anin't got nothing but we are supporting our boss and it 'looks like Russia'"

 
SimnI923
SimnI923,
User Rank: Apprentice
1/7/2017 | 3:52:36 PM
NO VETTED DATA that Putin Directed Cyberattacks to Influence US Election
It is difficult to assess the veracity of "findings" by 4 million Security Clearances of Intelligence Community personnel. What is evident is the past history of IC input that comes out of a bloated bureaucracy whose mission is only for self-preservation and growing budgets for past failures. This point of an administrative bureaucracy cannot be overstated. Probably the best example is how well the IC is utilized to promote and further an agenda. To wit, George W. Bush believed the IC community briefings of documented Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. He used this "Intel" for the Iraq War and commitment of American lives to bring Suddam Hussein to justice. The result? George was forever branded as "stupid" and Barack Hussein's agenda became the mainstream talking point as the "savior" of America! So, what makes you think the IC has changed its ways? This is their agenda to make President Trump into another "convenient idiot."


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