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The Problem With Patching: 7 Top Complaints
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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli,
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4/23/2016 | 9:26:36 AM
Suggested errata/addendums
I'd add a couple things to this very well thought out list:

* Don't just test your Windows updates.  Have and utilize a testbed for ALL your updates.  You never know when something might not play nice with something else.  (Remember the 3-day outage Verizon had on accounts receivable -- prevent customers from paying their bills -- because of an update gone awry?)

* The real solution for Flash is to JUST GET RID OF IT.  ;)
RyanSepe
RyanSepe,
 User Rank: Ninja
4/25/2016 | 10:41:19 AM
Re: Suggested errata/addendums
Flash is definitely a pain point, especially for vulnerability management. I agree with you 100% to remove it. Especially at the server level where it is really not needed.
Dr.T
Dr.T,
 User Rank: Ninja
4/26/2016 | 2:30:51 PM
Re: Suggested errata/addendums
"Flash is definitely a pain point ..."

Easy to remove but main questions for many companies are around their legacy applications. Most likely some of those critical apps would not be functional without it.  I know some of the companies are still suck with IE6.
RyanSepe
RyanSepe,
 User Rank: Ninja
4/26/2016 | 3:11:34 PM
Re: Suggested errata/addendums
Thats exactly the problem, legacy applications. I was going to comment to that on your previous post. As you said, maybe not an issue for the personal user but from an enterprise perspective its a huge issue.
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli,
 User Rank: Ninja
5/4/2016 | 6:33:16 AM
Re: Suggested errata/addendums
@RyanSepe: Excellent point, which I didn't even think of!  Who installs Flash on their *servers*?  :/
Dr.T
Dr.T,
 User Rank: Ninja
4/26/2016 | 2:28:01 PM
Re: Suggested errata/addendums
"... The real solution for Flash is to JUST GET RID OF IT. ..."

Are we still using it? I thought we already dropped flash and java ; I do not have in my laptop and I do not miss it. Moderns apps are not using it so, we will not need them soon. 
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli,
 User Rank: Ninja
5/6/2016 | 2:41:14 PM
Re: Suggested errata/addendums
Some major websites/companies (most notably, perhaps, Google) have hopped on board with HTML5 alternatives, but yep, Flash is still out there, around, proliferating in the sunlight waiting to drag us into the shadows.
MKultra
MKultra,
 User Rank: Apprentice
4/24/2016 | 3:32:40 PM
patching - the never ending story ...
hi fans,

well, i think the problem is the following:

when you install all patches and updates, you will get only new problems with vulnerabilities ...

then you need another patch to fix it - and so on !!!

its a never ending race between patch-programmers and blackhat-hackers - and the hackers have gone to win ...

sincerly

                 dipl.-ing.matthias klein (ANONYMOUS-member ans cybersecurity professional)

 

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Dr.T
Dr.T,
 User Rank: Ninja
4/26/2016 | 2:33:53 PM
Re: patching - the never ending story ...
"... then you need another patch to fix it ..."

Exactly. Never ending loop, patching the patch. That is what our experience is with Microsoft. Constant release to close a loop holes are actually waste of effort, time and money.
RyanSepe
RyanSepe,
 User Rank: Ninja
4/26/2016 | 3:13:47 PM
Re: patching - the never ending story ...
It's necessary. In security there will never be a silver bullet and its difficult to think of a world where patching doesn't exist. Build a steel vault and someone invents a contraption to melt steel. It will always be ongoing. Its those who get fed up with the process and let it go for long periods of time that are losing the fight.
Dr.T
Dr.T,
 User Rank: Ninja
4/26/2016 | 2:25:44 PM
Better platforms
 

We may need better platforms to avoid this much patching in our data centers. Good old mainframe days you were lucky if you could get patch every two years. :--))
Dr.T
Dr.T,
 User Rank: Ninja
4/26/2016 | 2:31:19 PM
OS Vs. Apps
 

Today, there is more problem with the apps than the OSes. Certain apps are vulnerable and they are used to exploit vulnerabilities in the OSes. Apple might have gotten this right from the beginning, maybe both Apps and OSes should be part of a closed system to avoid attacks with a least effort. 
RyanSepe
RyanSepe,
 User Rank: Ninja
4/26/2016 | 3:14:55 PM
Re: OS Vs. Apps
I agree with you, that's why app security is pivotal. Ingrain security at the development level and you will cut out a lot of future security headaches.


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