Dark Reading is part of the Informa Tech Division of Informa PLC

This site is operated by a business or businesses owned by Informa PLC and all copyright resides with them.Informa PLC's registered office is 5 Howick Place, London SW1P 1WG. Registered in England and Wales. Number 8860726.

Comments
NetFlow Or sFlow For Fastest DDoS Detection?
Newest First  |  Oldest First  |  Threaded View
Page 1 / 2   >   >>
RetiredUser
50%
50%
RetiredUser,
User Rank: Ninja
1/28/2016 | 10:27:54 AM
Re: SLAC List of Network (both LAN and WAN) Monitoring Tools
I think the value of that list as a general reference is more historical and evolutionary in nature.  For what folks prefer, SANS Institute papers and any one of the reputable security news websites (DR comes to mind) will have a breakdown of what is currently in popular use (or not popular, but recommended by respected InfoSec engineers).
Dr.T
50%
50%
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
1/27/2016 | 10:37:40 AM
Re: SLAC List of Network (both LAN and WAN) Monitoring Tools
"... you search Stanford(dot)edu for "Monitoring Tools" you'll quickly find it." I like open source option. I just checked it there are two many of them. Is there not any outstanding people use most often than others?
Dr.T
50%
50%
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
1/27/2016 | 10:31:51 AM
Re: NetFlow vs SFlow
"Sonicwall NSA does not support sFlow or even "netflow". It supports IPFIX, which is the IETF Standard"

Ok. This answers my previous question. Makes sense.
Dr.T
50%
50%
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
1/27/2016 | 10:30:29 AM
Re: Neither of the two for enterprices
"To me an inline DDOS solution that can inspect each and every packet up to the max. bandwidth of the environment is a much better solution. .."

That makes sense, what comes to my mind how this would impact the overall network performance.
Dr.T
50%
50%
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
1/27/2016 | 10:27:36 AM
Re: NetFlow vs SFlow
"My experience with either NetFlow or SFlow has been extremely poor with all the Sonicwall NSA series firewalls. .." Is this about Sonicwall I wonder?
Dr.T
50%
50%
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
1/27/2016 | 10:25:19 AM
DDoS Detection?
Thanks, nice article, enjoyed reading it. It is sad that all we can talk about detection.
RetiredUser
50%
50%
RetiredUser,
User Rank: Ninja
1/26/2016 | 11:21:50 PM
SLAC List of Network (both LAN and WAN) Monitoring Tools
I've only ever used Free and Open Source (FOSS) NMTs, and NetFlow and sFlow were never in my list of apps to review.  However, there are a large number of them out there and I highly encourage people seriously researching what is best for them to take a trip to the SLAC (Stanford Linear Accelerator Center) list of Network (both LAN and WAN) Monitoring Tools.  I've referenced this page for years and there is a nicely organized format ordered by year from 1996 to 2015 (as of my last visit) of over a hundred app, most with live links to the project pages.  I can't add the URL here, but if you search Stanford(dot)edu for "Monitoring Tools" you'll quickly find it.

Now, toward the question, I don't have to have used either to have an opinion; just based on experience with many of the soft solutions out there, I knew I wanted something more.  If you are attacking any major network analysis project, in-line monitoring is the only way to go.  Google it for plenty of good information on in-line bandwidth meters and network interface chips.  I've seen maker projects that built inexpensive in-line setups that would serve the purpose functionally, if not attractively!  Remember, full-duplex is ubiquitous...  Spend wisely and your network tap could become your best friend.    
MikeK103
50%
50%
MikeK103,
User Rank: Apprentice
1/26/2016 | 8:30:15 PM
Re: NetFlow vs SFlow
Sonicwall NSA does not support sFlow or even "netflow". It supports IPFIX, which is the IETF Standard. It is fully compliant with the IPFIX standard. V9 is the precursor to the standard and has been the "de facto standard", but is missing some features like enterprise elements and variable length strings. Initially the exports did not have a proper active timeout, but this has since been remedied in more recent releases. This is NOT a limitation from sonicwall. This is a limitation of the collector you are using. Plixer's Scrutinizer fully supports all Sonicwall IPFIX exports and provides accurate bandwidth and L7 DPI reporting. Any collector that supports their enterprise elements should be accurate. As far as I know, Plixer is the only one with full support... This is the case with many IPFIX exports from other vendors as well. Full disclosure, I work for Plixer. If you have any questions, call Plixer and ask for me "mike k" and I'd be happy to go over it.
MikeK103
50%
50%
MikeK103,
User Rank: Apprentice
1/26/2016 | 8:30:06 PM
Re: NetFlow vs SFlow
Sonicwall NSA does not support sFlow or even "netflow". It supports IPFIX, which is the IETF Standard. It is fully compliant with the IPFIX standard. V9 is the precursor to the standard and has been the "de facto standard", but is missing some features like enterprise elements and variable length strings. Initially the exports did not have a proper active timeout, but this has since been remedied in more recent releases. This is NOT a limitation from sonicwall. This is a limitation of the collector you are using. Plixer's Scrutinizer fully supports all Sonicwall IPFIX exports and provides accurate bandwidth and L7 DPI reporting. Any collector that supports their enterprise elements should be accurate. As far as I know, Plixer is the only one with full support... This is the case with many IPFIX exports from other vendors as well. Full disclosure, I work for Plixer. If you have any questions, call Plixer and ask for me "mike k" and I'd be happy to go over it.
mduijm
50%
50%
mduijm,
User Rank: Apprentice
1/26/2016 | 1:26:29 PM
Neither of the two for enterprices
My experience with DDOS attacks so far is that the detection of SFLOW or NetFlow + the time to redirect the traffic to a cloud based solution is way too long for the environment to sustain, making the DDOS effective immediatly.


To me an inline DDOS solution that can inspect each and every packet up to the max. bandwidth of the environment is a much better solution. This is fast (< 5 sec. detection and blocking). When the attack becomes bigger then you can think of redirection of traffic into the cloud for mitigation over there. Some DDOS cloud providers now offer API's for on-premise DDOS boxes to send them an alert. Then they can start the redirection of traffic towards the cloud.

My believe this is the way forward for Enterprises and smaller ISP's to move forward. For bigger ISP's and Carriers I guess the above story is true.
Page 1 / 2   >   >>


COVID-19: Latest Security News & Commentary
Dark Reading Staff 7/2/2020
Ripple20 Threatens Increasingly Connected Medical Devices
Kelly Sheridan, Staff Editor, Dark Reading,  6/30/2020
DDoS Attacks Jump 542% from Q4 2019 to Q1 2020
Dark Reading Staff 6/30/2020
Register for Dark Reading Newsletters
White Papers
Video
Cartoon
Current Issue
How Cybersecurity Incident Response Programs Work (and Why Some Don't)
This Tech Digest takes a look at the vital role cybersecurity incident response (IR) plays in managing cyber-risk within organizations. Download the Tech Digest today to find out how well-planned IR programs can detect intrusions, contain breaches, and help an organization restore normal operations.
Flash Poll
The Threat from the Internetand What Your Organization Can Do About It
The Threat from the Internetand What Your Organization Can Do About It
This report describes some of the latest attacks and threats emanating from the Internet, as well as advice and tips on how your organization can mitigate those threats before they affect your business. Download it today!
Twitter Feed
Dark Reading - Bug Report
Bug Report
Enterprise Vulnerabilities
From DHS/US-CERT's National Vulnerability Database
CVE-2020-9498
PUBLISHED: 2020-07-02
Apache Guacamole 1.1.0 and older may mishandle pointers involved inprocessing data received via RDP static virtual channels. If a userconnects to a malicious or compromised RDP server, a series ofspecially-crafted PDUs could result in memory corruption, possiblyallowing arbitrary code to be executed...
CVE-2020-3282
PUBLISHED: 2020-07-02
A vulnerability in the web-based management interface of Cisco Unified Communications Manager, Cisco Unified Communications Manager Session Management Edition, Cisco Unified Communications Manager IM &amp;amp; Presence Service, and Cisco Unity Connection could allow an unauthenticated, remote attack...
CVE-2020-5909
PUBLISHED: 2020-07-02
In versions 3.0.0-3.5.0, 2.0.0-2.9.0, and 1.0.1, when users run the command displayed in NGINX Controller user interface (UI) to fetch the agent installer, the server TLS certificate is not verified.
CVE-2020-5910
PUBLISHED: 2020-07-02
In versions 3.0.0-3.5.0, 2.0.0-2.9.0, and 1.0.1, the Neural Autonomic Transport System (NATS) messaging services in use by the NGINX Controller do not require any form of authentication, so any successful connection would be authorized.
CVE-2020-5911
PUBLISHED: 2020-07-02
In versions 3.0.0-3.5.0, 2.0.0-2.9.0, and 1.0.1, the NGINX Controller installer starts the download of Kubernetes packages from an HTTP URL On Debian/Ubuntu system.