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Gas Stations Urged To Secure Internet-Exposed Fuel Tank Devices
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David Wagner
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1/26/2015 | 7:31:37 PM
Thermostats
Sigh...didn't we learn this with thermostats? Are we goign to have the same problem with sensors on refrigerated trucks? I feel like we're making the same mistakes over and over. I wish we'd make some new ones. At the same time, fuel gauges? Who knew?
impactnow
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1/26/2015 | 9:43:46 PM
Re: Thermostats

Dave agreed. I wonder how many of the gas station owners are aware of the vulnerability and just don't think it's an issue versus those that are completely unaware.

Joe Stanganelli
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1/26/2015 | 9:51:41 PM
Re: Thermostats
Even major government systems are not immune.  See, e.g., pastebin.com/Wx90LLum
Kelly Jackson Higgins
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1/27/2015 | 7:32:40 AM
Re: Thermostats
This is indeed a common theme of Internet of Things things, and more importantly, of industrial systems things. 

One reason for the vulnerability of these smaller gas stations is that they don't have the private WAN connections and satellite links larger gas station chains use--it's a financial issue, so they use a cheaper network connection/setup. I didn't go into this in the story, but this is a point that Jack Chadowitz brought up when I interviewed him.
Marilyn Cohodas
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1/27/2015 | 8:48:14 AM
Re: Thermostats
I'm sure that we are only scratching about  security (or lack of security) surrounding the Internet of Things. Kelly's point about small businesses -- like a mom & pop convenient store or gas station -- being the most vulnerable is absolutely true. On the other hand, perhaps the small busineses would be less of a target for hackers. 
David Wagner
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1/27/2015 | 2:00:46 PM
Re: Thermostats
Thanks, Kelly. There is a business opportunity here then. Sort of like the way public cloud helps small businesses compete with larger ones. Bring secure IoT to small businesses at a cheap price. I guess that's hard work, but it is good work.
Marilyn Cohodas
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1/27/2015 | 2:55:16 PM
Re: Thermostats
I was thinking that exact same "thing," Dave (forgive the pun)
Joe Stanganelli
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1/28/2015 | 10:35:52 PM
Re: Thermostats
Which brings up the question: Why the heck are they using any sort of modern "smart" gas system that has Internet/satellite connection if they can't afford the proper security for it?  Since when do you NEED the ditgab Internet for a gas pump?!?!?!?

The "smarter" the devices become, the stupider people get.
Kelly Jackson Higgins
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1/29/2015 | 7:59:22 AM
Re: Thermostats
@Joe Stanganelli, their suppliers (oil companies) and partners (environmental compliance monitoring) require them, from what I understand.
Joe Stanganelli
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1/31/2015 | 8:55:18 PM
Re: Thermostats
How silly -- especially if the contracts aren't making considerations for those that require them to front some of the security costs.  My two cents, anyway.
JJack154
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2/5/2015 | 11:25:16 AM
Re: Thermostats
Security by Obscurity is practiced on a broad scale by many industries, even though by today's best practices model, it's considered No Security at all.


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