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Obama: U.S. Will Respond 'Proportionately' To Sony Cyber Attack
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Ulf Mattsson
Ulf Mattsson,
User Rank: Moderator
12/20/2014 | 9:50:26 AM
Sony is just another company that is wide open
Sony is just another company that is wide open and did not secure personal data and other sensitive information. They made an earlier business decision to not secure their databases. And now some politics is involved.

I think that the successful attack at JP Morgan Chase surprised me more. The largest US bank lost personal information of 76 million households and it took several months to detect.

Unfortunately, current security approaches can't tell you what normal looks like in your own systems and the situation is getting worse according to Verizon. Verizon is reporting that this a growing issue. Less than 14% of breaches are detected by internal security tools according to the annual international breach investigations report by Verizon.  

So we need to protect our sensitive data itself with modern data centric security technology. As consumers, we must demand better protection from the companies we do business with.  

Ulf Mattsson, CTO Protegrity
SgS125
SgS125,
User Rank: Ninja
12/22/2014 | 9:49:01 AM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
Why does anyone actually beleive that NK had anything to do with SONY?  What a red herring.

Two weeks after we hear about the US malware efforts, it gets buried by the Sony hack.

Great timing indeed.  Nicely done.

Look over here at this shiny new news article, forget this old tired one.
stevew928
stevew928,
User Rank: Strategist
12/22/2014 | 11:41:20 AM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
Because the govt wants you to believe N. Korea is involved. It helps the sales of weapons to S. Korea.

I think it's pretty obvious the State Dept jumped the shark this time, but the press seems all on-board and the general public doesn't really care about the truth.
Dr.T
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
12/22/2014 | 12:37:55 PM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
In my view, there must be some convincing evidence for the president to talk about it. If they did not do it by themselves they must have supported it, or outsourced.
stevew928
stevew928,
User Rank: Strategist
12/22/2014 | 1:41:16 PM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
Not necessarily. They've cooked up some talking points, for sure. Beyond that, who (that can actually make a difference) is going to question it?

You might want to follow this:

marcrogers (dot) org/2014/12/18/why-the-sony-hack-is-unlikely-to-be-the-work-of-north-korea/
Dr.T
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
12/22/2014 | 12:16:25 PM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
There must be real evidence that they do not share with public, you would not expect the president coming out this string if not, I say.
SgS125
SgS125,
User Rank: Ninja
12/22/2014 | 12:19:25 PM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
Right, real eveidence.

You will never see any.

Both sides can use this to advantage.  

NK can say, oooo look how bad we are.  

US can say oooo look how bad they are.

In the meantime we can all forget about the malware that the US was caught sending out.
ODA155
ODA155,
User Rank: Ninja
12/22/2014 | 1:28:11 PM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
"Two weeks after we hear about the US malware efforts..."

@stevew928,... I'm sorry, what... did I miss something, what are you talking about, source please.  Thanks.
stevew928
stevew928,
User Rank: Strategist
12/22/2014 | 1:43:53 PM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
I think so. You've been listening to too much media, I suppose and possibly trusting the President. Check the link I posted above to get you started.
SgS125
SgS125,
User Rank: Ninja
12/22/2014 | 2:03:20 PM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/11/24/secret-regin-malware-belgacom-nsa-gchq/

 

So on November 24th we hear about US Malware, then on Dec 1st we hear warnings about "new" malware threat that turns into Sony hack.

Plenty of other news artciles out there on interesting structure of the malware found to be close to stuxnet with signitures supposodly tying the brits.  But hey who should we believe these days? right?  Becuase our three letter agencies have always been truthiness in their answers.  
ODA155
ODA155,
User Rank: Ninja
12/22/2014 | 2:51:14 PM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
@SgS125... stevew928... Personally, I believe what I see and not the person who yells the loudest or tries to insult the worst, what I do believe is that Sony has (currently) and has had poor security practices for a while. Again, as I've mentioned this is not their first or second rodeo. Nobody can 100% protect their networks from intrusion, but in my opinion three hacks in 5 years lays the problem squarley at Sony's doorstep, regardless who hacked them.

Here's a question(s) for you... what would any "three letter agency" have to gain by hacking Sony and blaming in on N.K.? This can out today... "The North Koreans said they didn't hack Sony, but be prepared for more."... if they didn't do it, why would they make that threat... are they working with our "three letter agencies"...? Why Sony and not a sewage treatment plant or some power generation plant in Montana or Washington?

Oh yeah, I did see the reports of"Regin".
SgS125
SgS125,
User Rank: Ninja
12/23/2014 | 8:55:54 AM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
OH my, I'm not saying any three letter agency has hacked anyone, just pointing out that an opportunity like this one never gets wasted.  By either side.
Dr.T
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
12/28/2014 | 10:39:27 AM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
There may not be any opportunities after all. The risk is that if we constantly get what the treat is wrong, it is not going to be easy go us to avoid them in the future, simply because we could not be building an international coalition to overcome difficulties.
Dr.T
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
12/28/2014 | 10:42:04 AM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
Malware similarities are mainly irrelevant if it is already released to public. There has to be better evidence than that to convince other about it.
Dr.T
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
12/22/2014 | 12:14:09 PM
Re: Sony is just another company that is wide open
We should demand better protection as consumers however there is no checks and balances, we do not hear about it until we are already compromised. 
Dr.T
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
12/22/2014 | 12:11:55 PM
Go offensive
 

We need to be offensive when it comes to security. Defensive tactics are generally not working. We need to identify where the loopholes are and close them before exploited again. It is really suprising that one compromised admin user can create this mish damage. How did they captured these amount of information that brought whole company down without being noticed. They must have being downloading data for a while in my view. 
ODA155
ODA155,
User Rank: Ninja
12/22/2014 | 1:31:29 PM
Re: Go offensive
"They must have being downloading data for a while in my view."

 

@DRT... reportedly over 100 terabyts... yeah, i'd say they were busy for a while.
Dr.T
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
12/28/2014 | 10:45:28 AM
Re: Go offensive
True. They must have been downloading data for a while. This is not something that can be downloaded quickly unless they compromised physical backup types or disks they must have been working on it quite some time, giving the fact that wide area bandwidth is not generally high.
stevew928
stevew928,
User Rank: Strategist
12/22/2014 | 1:45:12 PM
Re: Go offensive
Inside job.
Dr.T
Dr.T,
User Rank: Ninja
12/28/2014 | 10:35:19 AM
Get even?
There is growing group of experts believe that there is no enough evidence that two my attack is dine by North Korea. So our focus should be offensive for sure but not attacking to other countries infrastructure. We need to our offensive approaches to close the vulnerability holes including super admins being fired and going against the company assets.


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