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Microsoft Fixes Critical SChannel & OLE Bugs, But No Patches For XP
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BlackWingCat
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12/5/2014 | 1:23:53 AM
Re: XP
Therefore, I created MS14-064/066/067/068/070/072 patches for Windows 2000 myself in last month. :)

 It should be easy that created it from other version patches , because someone can create the malware from vulnerability within severaldays.

 
Technocrati
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11/28/2014 | 6:43:53 PM
Re: XP

@DDURBIN1     I love the analogy !   I couldn't agree more.

ODA155
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11/20/2014 | 10:00:24 AM
Re: XP
Did they fix it for free?
DDURBIN1
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11/20/2014 | 9:50:54 AM
Re: XP
If I owned a 2006 Ford Mustang (you could buy XP new in 2006)) and took it to a Ford dealer for repair do you think Ford would turn me away or do you think they would try and help a loyal customer out?  And if they refused to work on my 2006 (even though I'm willing to pay) then demand I buy a new Mustand from them do you think I would only look at Fords?
ODA155
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11/20/2014 | 9:39:46 AM
Re: XP
@DDURBIN1, is this an aurgument for information security or are you just nostalgic for XP, because this has nothing to do with the "survival" of any company, but rather companies, IT Departments and private customers unwilling to upgrade to a supported operating system, and you don't have to, it's not required, but do not expect a vendor to keep a product alive if they want to produce something newer. Read this article, if you're willing to pay for it you could probably get them to enclude you in this program to keep XP going... but then you can also keep using it unsupported and hope for the best, it's your choice. In your opinion, how long should MS carry XP, 5 more years, 10, 25? Let me ask you this, how old is your cell phone, do you upgrade every two years or less? I know people who complain about no support for Windows XP but everytime a new Android or iPhone is released they get one, why, I don't know, don't care but it just makes me laugh when I compare the two actions, they make no sense.

Speaking of Ford, have you ever driven an original 5.0 Mustang, a Torino or a Toyota Supra or what about the old big bodied Cadi's... they're all gone, for what their makers thought\hoped would be better products. Things change

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2139929/windows-xp-support-will-be-available-after-april-8-just-not-for-you.html

 
DDURBIN1
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11/20/2014 | 9:19:32 AM
Re: XP
@ODA155, name ANY company that survives after rejecting 30% of its customers.  Can you image let say McDonald's, AT&T or FORD rejecting 30% of the customers that come in their stores?  This is what Microsoft is doing; turning their back on "loyal" customers.  It is not the best business practice.  This is a customer decision (for whatever the reasons might be) not a vendor one.  Showing no good will toward continued XP customers leaves a poor taste particularly when 90% of the code in Windows 7 is actually XP code.

 
ODA155
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11/19/2014 | 10:07:57 PM
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@DDURBIN1,... I don't understand why people just can't move on to newer technology. MS made this decision a long time ago but kept putting it off because of customer outcry... should MS provide patches and support for all of its "unsupported" products...? How long should a warranty last last on a car that you bought in 1992, because you like it and want to keep it, should the automaker be forced to keep updating it because you like it,come on people, should MS support Windows 2000 or NT4.0?

You want to know why 30% of the worlds computers are still running on Windows XP... it's because somebody, for whatever the reason(s) were made a decision not to upgrade, not because of anything MS did because if that were the case that 30% would be lower since support ended on May 1st, and as an information security professional I have no sympathy for anyone or company still using it... even the company I work for.
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11/17/2014 | 1:44:12 PM
Re: The same code base?

@Marilyn Cohodas   Thanks for the link - I didn't know Mr. Nedella came from Sun ?     Seems as though everyone from the early days of Sun have done well afterward.   I do wish him good luck though, managing the likes of MS will be no easy task.

Technocrati
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11/17/2014 | 1:40:18 PM
Re: The same code base?

@Robert McDougal  -    Good point.   The computing world was much different then and I agree those methods of yore would not pass the mustard now. 

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11/17/2014 | 1:17:46 PM
Re: The same code base?
@Technocrati   If I was in the shoes of Gates and Ballmer I would probably have decided to code on top of what was already there.  However, that was then, in the security environment of today I think I would have made a different decision.  Today, the cost of a security flaw to the business and the brand name is much more than it was even 5 years ago.  It probably makes more economical sense to re-code from the ground up now.
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