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Celeb Hack: Is Apple Telling All It Knows?
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dak3
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9/3/2014 | 3:15:06 PM
Re: Great Article!
A MITM attack isn't something the user can defend against, easily, but can be detected by the host/server - so that's Apple's bad.

 

Even a phishing attack which acquires credentials can suffer detection based on IP address (although it could be spoofed), another factor which a good risk-based authentication system would have caught.

 

-dave
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aws0513,
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9/3/2014 | 3:02:49 PM
Re: Great Article!
Yes...  Excellent article.

Apple did not satisfy me with their answer.

They responded with a statement that is, in its own way, a form of social engineering.

Those who are in the security industry would quickly smoke out the fact that Apple has not provided any evidence that they really were not at fault.  All I saw were statements of misdirection that many people would likely fall for.

Until Apple provides specific details on how the data was obtained, I will continue to hold them at fault.

IMHO, the only outs that Apple has at this point are
  • The victim(s) fell for some kind of MITM or phishing scheme.
  • The victim(s) shared their account credentials with other people in their entourage (a bad practice, but we know it happens).  Thus providing another vector for compromise of their account and data.
  • It is proven that the victim(s) released the data themselves as a form of self promotion.  Would not be the first case of such activity in Hollywood.
StuAllard
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9/3/2014 | 3:00:36 PM
Re: Great Article!
The fact that Apple is vehemently denying something is not true, is often the best indication that in fact, the opposite is true. In this case, however you twist it, Apple was hacked in a massive way, and they did bot block the hack.  Their reputation is tarnished and is only getting blacker by the denials. 

Celebs should get some security awareness training as well, stop uploading highly private pictures to the cloud, and start using 2-factor authentication combined with strong passwords.

Stu Sjouwerman

CEO, KnowBe4

www.knowbe4.com
Robert McDougal
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9/3/2014 | 2:22:05 PM
Great Article!
I agree 100%.  I think that when all is said and done Apple will regret this statement.  

It appears to me they are attempting to define a breach as an event that involves attackers gaining access to company servers.  So, in this case, since the attackers only gained access to individual accounts there wasn't a breach.  

In my opinion, if the accounts were compromised by bruteforce then your systems were breached.  A matter of semantics I suppose.
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