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Why A Secured Network Is Like The Human Body
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Dan Ross
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7/1/2014 | 8:17:32 AM
Re: Preventive vs Proactive
well, your mileage may vary but we've seen reasons like not having the resources/means to do this effectively, talent on staff, costs to outsource ongoing testing vs audit compliance must do activities, to name a few. In general, we believe customers that can carry this out as part of a larger plan to detect potential threats proactively stand a far better chance of stopping or at least limiting their next targetted attack.
RyanSepe
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6/30/2014 | 5:53:08 PM
Re: Preventive vs Proactive
What would you say is the reason/s why ethical hacking isn't more prevalent? Especially within organizations on there own test environments?
Dan Ross
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6/30/2014 | 10:49:25 AM
Re: Apt analogy
Thank you! At the risk of changing the scope of the article, I thought it was a good place to leave it at, due care, but I agree with you that such a term does interject a legal element to the conversation. I am sure we will see more around this topic. 
Marilyn Cohodas
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6/30/2014 | 10:01:09 AM
Re: Apt analogy
Agree that an important shift is taking place within the security industry -- though I would argue that the use of the term "due care' does interject a legal element to the discussion, particularly in light of pending litigation related to the Target breach.

But, in terms of how security pros need to respond to the changing threat landschipe, due care is as good a term as any to describe what needs to be done!

 

 
Dan Ross
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6/30/2014 | 10:00:22 AM
Re: Preventive vs Proactive
I couldn't agree more with you Ryan.  More Pen Testing, not just as part of a compliance audit but as a general practice carried out by ethical hackers is and should be considered part of this wholistic approach. At the risk of stretching the analogy a little, one could draw parallels to innoculations to disease as an example of trying to break in and bring down your defenses but instead as means to build up one's defense to an attack. The process of building up immunity hinges upon some level of exposure and allowing your body to build defense.  We as an industry should be proactively applying similar principles in trying to find areas of weakness before someone that wishes to cause us harm ultimately does.
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6/30/2014 | 9:46:47 AM
Re: Apt analogy
While one could form a legal argument from "due care" in this context, the consensus in this article was coming from the security industry as a whole.  Its becoming generally accepted that companies/customers are always under attack and the "boogieman" is already inside. Its our job as security professionals to see this and the ramifications this has in our approaches and the paradigm shifting in tactics, putting more emphasis on proactive vs reactive, detection vs prevention, etc.
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6/29/2014 | 1:31:34 AM
Re: Apt analogy
Good question. When I hear phrases like "due care" I immediately think lawsuit. But the standard for that, unless it is defined by compliance regulations, is going to have to be very broad to the point it would take something egregious on the part of the business to create liability. 

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6/28/2014 | 10:11:30 PM
Preventive vs Proactive
Great article. I am a big advocate of the wholistic approach as well. But as threats evolve, security professionals are on the reactive side of the equation most of the time. What I believe needs to happen is that CyberSec professionals need to be more proactive. Preventive is a good approach but it acknowledges, mostly, that there are threats that are already known that we are trying to stop. But as we have seen, and as the article alludes to, zero day attacks will not fall into this category for preventive control.

What I am alluding to, is a higher emphasis on penetration testing. I think if this was to be a larger priority, not as many zero day attacks be would banging on the door. Its hard to justify because the idea of the health system is lets prepare to keep the body healthy and if it does fall ill, lets remediate. But if we think of zero days as such with a contagion scenario we can follow similar analogies to the point that we are trying to remediate new disease before it becomes a devastating issue.
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6/27/2014 | 4:26:40 PM
Re: rest
If you are referring to the Rest api, we agree, having an open standard to share security information between systems is a preferred approach. If you are referring to personal snooze time the body certainly does need rest, which is a choice...
Okal sugu
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6/27/2014 | 11:37:43 AM
rest
I totally agree with you. I am a believer in wholistic approach in life. How can I intergrate Rest in my systems?
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