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Why FIDO Alliance Standards Will Kill Passwords

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Bill Gates predicted the demise of passwords more than a decade ago. But the FIDO Alliance believes its proposed new authentication standards are a game changer that will transform the computing landscape in just three years. Phillip Dunkelberger, President & CEO of Nok Nok Labs, tells why he believes that the time is finally ripe for a password-free computing experience.

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Marilyn Cohodas
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Marilyn Cohodas,
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2/18/2014 | 4:14:40 PM
Couldn't happen too soon!
Phil, I doubt that there's a consumer or IT person on this planet that doesn't pray for the day that passwords will be replaced with a manageable autentication process. But what are some of the hurdles that the industry has to overcome to reach that point? Is there broadbased agreement on the FIDO standards or are there competing technologies or ideas?  
djameson910
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djameson910,
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2/20/2014 | 3:22:42 PM
Stolen Device
So, if someone steals my device, they have access to all my stuff?  How does my device know me from an interloper?
ANON1241486907214
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ANON1241486907214,
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2/21/2014 | 9:56:36 AM
Re: Couldn't happen too soon!
Can imagine what technology would make private keys safe. At least with passwords, the NSA has to spend some effort in guessing or intercepting them.  Any kind of centralized system  would immediately fall prey to government security agencies, and eventually to other players.
Spaz
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Spaz,
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2/22/2014 | 5:02:05 PM
Re: Couldn't happen too soon!
passwords especially corporate passwords are a complete pia. it's frustrating how the passwords have to be changed so often and how they have to fall within certain parameters eg. 8 charaters, has to containt this and that, etc. until another worthy solution is provided, we all need fingerprint readers instead. this will certainly help both the IT admins and employees as well.
SeanKelly
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SeanKelly,
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2/26/2014 | 5:26:39 PM
Re: Couldn't happen too soon!
I agree with your comment on corporate passwords but I disagree strongly with the comment on fingerprints. Fingerprints are not a password replacement. Fingerprints are usernames. Fingerprints aren't secret, you leave them everywhere and you can't change them (easily) when they have been compromised. Fingerprints should never be used as passwords.
Spaz
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Spaz,
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2/26/2014 | 10:46:49 PM
Re: Couldn't happen too soon!
Nothing is infallible I suppose. While I don't know the technical aspects of fingerprint readers.  Apple feels very good about fingerprint scanners and so does Samsung. They both allow you to access your device with the fingerprint scanner. I imagine that one would have to get some training in how to pick up fingerprint. You'd need to buy fingerprint kits as well. I am definitely not for retina scanners since they have a lot of radiation. 
Marilyn Cohodas
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Marilyn Cohodas,
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2/27/2014 | 8:31:38 AM
Re: Couldn't happen too soon!
Hi Spaz! I just gor my new iPhone with the biometric fingerprint reader. So I can tell you first hand how user friendly it is. Stay tuned!
windk
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windk,
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3/19/2014 | 4:29:35 PM
Re: Couldn't happen too soon!
A good fiction (but apparently soon to be non-fiction) read about this is Dave Eggers' The Circle : "The Circle, run out of a sprawling California campus, links users' personal emails, social media, banking, and purchasing with their universal operating system, resulting in one online identity and a new age of civility and transparency." (Alfred A. Knopf, 2013).
DonT733
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DonT733,
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3/31/2014 | 8:02:10 PM
Just wondering when the FIDO Presentation might have some more content.
In a word, the presentation just affirmed VPN certificates with passwords to unlock them.  Thanks for revisiting private password key stores for the protection of digital certificates.  Is there any more content?

Passwords are not good, there just cheap.  My MacBook Air Pro, due to flashram drives acheived 6 billion password combinations per second in August of 2013.  This pretty much means passwords less than 12 places with full complexity have less than 50/50 odds to remain uncracked in less than 90 days.  

Please send IT Auditors to me.  I want to present what I have and am offerring a voluntary pledge.  "I will never again claim that an 8 place password is an adequate security meaure."  For those that must use only numbers in their passwords, 18 places are needed to compensate for the lack of complexity.  At least, so says my Mac -- running a Windows 7 VM running John the Ripper at 6 Billion Combinations per Second, while the Mac side runs AV and edits word simultaniously.

You know, the second factor tool account password cracked and the full Pen Test Check Mate of their Domain Controller fell out rather quickly after that.

Yes, I would say that 8 place passwords are closer to public endangerment rather than InfoSec security.    

 

 

 

 

 

 
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